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When I was out west I took my car up to obstruction point road in the national park. My stock tires were bald by then. I was worried about getting a flat. When I got up to the trail head I parked next to another outback that had a large rock in the tire. I actually tried to patch it for them. I put 3 plugs in it. I never did find out if it got them down.

The snow rating was one of the reasons I picked this tire. I have not had any snow yet. The stock tires were not that great. do you have anything to compare them with?
We've run the Geolander AT/S on our 08 Outback and these are, for our purposes, much better. The AT/S was much more aggressive, but the trade off for road noise and handling puts the G015 ahead, plus it handles the ice much better - both tires kick ass in snow. I know of a lot of people who like the KO2's, but they are just too aggressive for our needs (although they look wicked!).
 

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Discussion starter · #23 ·
Still love the look.
They are great in the rain. Great.

MPG are the same.
I have settled on running slightly higher pressure to stiffen up the side wall and steering response. I think it is also helping with MPG. I kind of want to try running lower pressures again to see how they feel. They are a soft and complaint tire.

I have had them on grass and mud They did well on the mud but I would have been fine with regular tires. No real "test" yet. I bought these tires for 1 on road, 2 snow, 3 rare occasions soft roading, not off roading. I do occasionally go soft roading in west Virginia, occasionally drive on the beach, but if we get a snowy winter we do have a skiing family. The stock tires were crap in the snow.
I do have a long road trip planned for thanks giving where I will be able to take them 8 hours ( no traffic) to the beach, hopefully on the beach, and 8 hours home from the beach.
I also plan to go to Canada to Ski over new years. Last year it was a un plowed blizzard from central NY to Mt Trablent. The stock tires were so so bad.

I will have more to report back on as soon as we get some snow.
 
I have about 2 inches of snow.
I took the STI out for fun.
Then I took the outback out to test the tires. These tires are really, really good in the 2" of snow we have.
Thank you for an update as to the Geolandar G015 tires in the snow. I have them on my FJ Cruiser but am a desert rat in the desert in AZ and haven't had the chance to try mine in the snow.
 
New member here...out of curiosity, I have read that the all terrain tire options for the 18-inch wheels are limited and most folks upsize, as you did, to the 235 Geolander GO-15s. In searching online, Yokohama does make a Geolander in the 225 size, but the aspect ratio is 55 rather than 60. Wouldn't this tire work fine on the stock 18-inch OB wheels too?
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
New member here...out of curiosity, I have read that the all terrain tire options for the 18-inch wheels are limited and most folks upsize, as you did, to the 235 Geolander GO-15s. In searching online, Yokohama does make a Geolander in the 225 size, but the aspect ratio is 55 rather than 60. Wouldn't this tire work fine on the stock 18-inch OB wheels too?
Check out this web site

https://tiresize.com/comparison/

it would work. your car will think it is going faster and further than it really is. I dont know about fuel economy. It also looks like you would loose about half an inch of ground clearance.

I also suspect they would look small on your car.
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
5000 mile TESTED mud and snow tropical storm rain up date

I have now driven the car in propper deep mud and deep snow. I took my car to a ford raptor off road driving event. I just drove my car to the starting point of the course through deep snow and deep soft mud. I never would have attempted this on stock tires. I also would not have attempted this with out 40 trucks with tow straps fighting over who would get to pull me out. I also got to have fun in the field ( staging area). It was the type of real world test where you have to scoop the mud off your roof when you are done.

These tires do EXACTLY what I bought them for. 90 % of dry road performance. night and day difference off road/soft road/ wet road/ snow performance with 97% fuel economy.

my worn stock tires did 29 mph gps MPH while car read 30. These tires due to size and not being worn did 31 GPS MPH when the car read 30 MPH. So I calculated that = real world gas milage would read 2 MPG lower than stock. I cam currently about 2.8 MPG lower. 29.3 vs 26.5 after 5000 miles. So I figuring I am with in 1 MPG real world MPG than the stock tires.
 
Head west young man, the Rubicon Trail is calling !
 
Awesome updates, thanks!

I'm very close to replacing my original tires, now at about 31k on my odometer. They are not totally done, but showing age and I have some time over the upcoming holidays to do this. I am just about sold on these tires. The only other questions I have are these:

- Do you have any issues with the TPMS using oversized tires?
- You've mentioned MPG changes, but I can't quite follow it. Sounds like a bit less MPG on the oversized tires, but very close?

Thanks,
Eric
 
Awesome updates, thanks!

I'm very close to replacing my original tires, now at about 31k on my odometer. They are not totally done, but showing age and I have some time over the upcoming holidays to do this. I am just about sold on these tires. The only other questions I have are these:

- Do you have any issues with the TPMS using oversized tires?
- You've mentioned MPG changes, but I can't quite follow it. Sounds like a bit less MPG on the oversized tires, but very close?

Thanks,
Eric
To jump in on Eric's question, are you relying on the reported fuel economy from the car, or are you calculating it? I use both a Google Sheet, and the Fuelly app & website to track my fuel economy, and to check on what the computer is reporting.
 
5000 mile TESTED mud and snow tropical storm rain up date

I have now driven the car in propper deep mud and deep snow. I took my car to a ford raptor off road driving event. I just drove my car to the starting point of the course through deep snow and deep soft mud. I never would have attempted this on stock tires. I also would not have attempted this with out 40 trucks with tow straps fighting over who would get to pull me out. I also got to have fun in the field ( staging area). It was the type of real world test where you have to scoop the mud off your roof when you are done.

These tires do EXACTLY what I bought them for. 90 % of dry road performance. night and day difference off road/soft road/ wet road/ snow performance with 97% fuel economy.

my worn stock tires did 29 mph gps MPH while car read 30. These tires due to size and not being worn did 31 GPS MPH when the car read 30 MPH. So I calculated that = real world gas milage would read 2 MPG lower than stock. I cam currently about 2.8 MPG lower. 29.3 vs 26.5 after 5000 miles. So I figuring I am with in 1 MPG real world MPG than the stock tires.
You missed the most important part of the update.

Did any of the Raptors get a chance to pull you out of being stuck?
 
5000 mile TESTED mud and snow tropical storm rain up date

I have now driven the car in propper deep mud and deep snow. I took my car to a ford raptor off road driving event. I just drove my car to the starting point of the course through deep snow and deep soft mud. I never would have attempted this on stock tires. I also would not have attempted this with out 40 trucks with tow straps fighting over who would get to pull me out. I also got to have fun in the field ( staging area). It was the type of real world test where you have to scoop the mud off your roof when you are done.

These tires do EXACTLY what I bought them for. 90 % of dry road performance. night and day difference off road/soft road/ wet road/ snow performance with 97% fuel economy.
You're killin' us!
Did you get stuck at the Raptor event, or did you make some jaws drop?
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
Awesome updates, thanks!

I'm very close to replacing my original tires, now at about 31k on my odometer. They are not totally done, but showing age and I have some time over the upcoming holidays to do this. I am just about sold on these tires. The only other questions I have are these:

- Do you have any issues with the TPMS using oversized tires?
- You've mentioned MPG changes, but I can't quite follow it. Sounds like a bit less MPG on the oversized tires, but very close?

Thanks,
Eric

No TPMS issues

MPG changes

short answer
according to the car about 2.8 MPG between worn stockers and new over sized tires

better answer
taking in to account the discrepancy in recorded distance driven due to tires size, the actual difference is only about 1 MPG
when tires were worn I would register 20 MPH while gps or radar said 19 OR LESS.
new tires say 31 MPH while the car reads 30 mph
 
I was really bummed to learn today that this tire is on nationwide back order and won't be available for at least 90 days or longer. I need to replace my tires sooner than this, so looks like I may have to go back to the drawing board or get some boring tires.
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
OMG I would be SOO BUMMED. I wanted to wait till this week, having time, being a teacher. I guess things happen for a reason.

I have noticed something odd that I think I can attribute to these tires. By my house are a series of traffic circles. The pavement is polished smoothe. In the pouring rain I can not consistently induce throttle off over steer. Not possible with stock tires.
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
The car is So much better in the snow.

So I have a friend with a forester and blizzacks (dedicated snow tires) in the stock size. We went out for a hilly loop by my house with his car first. We both though that his car might have had slight better up hill grip on super packed down snow. we also though that my car may have done a little better on gravel with 8-10 inches of snow on it.

Both tires are like a million times better in snow than the stock tires.
 
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