TPMS programming Tool

I have my 2020 touring XT on order expecting it to be delivered in January. I planning on getting the Falken Wildpeak trail in 225/60 18 or 235/60 18. I’m not a fan of the doughnut spare and im planning on getting a full size spare for a stock rim to match what the car is coming with the dealer...

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Gen 6 - TPMS reset tool for 2020 Outback?

I've been digging and have found info on older models, but nothing on the 2020 Gen-6 Outback. Thought I'd start a new thread. Pretty much the same question that I've seen for older models with a separate set of snow tires with TPMS monitors installed on separate steel rims: I'd prefer, if...

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ATEQ TPMS Quickset Tool

Anyone have any luck with this on a 2015 Outback? I tried selecting a 2014 Outback and then a 2014 Legacy, but I am unable to download the codes from my car. I did email the company...

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Thanks but I did find those threads and they are talking about the "reset" tool and not about cloning my existing TPMS codes to a new/duplicate set. (unless I am missing something)

 

Although the last thread does point to a cloning tool, that tool does not claim support for the 2020 Outback.

 

There are some threads on cloning as well, I just picked some on the first page of the search results

ATEQ and Autel seem to be popular.

 

Thanks. Do we know if the 2020s use the same TPMS as 2018 or 2019? None of the programmers I've found list support for the 2020s.

 

yes, it’s a fairly new one since 2018.

Part number 28103FL00B

 

I use the Autel MaxiTPMS ts508 (I paid $175 at tirerack on a sale). You can clone sensors with it, though I don't know why youd want to since you can easily do a relearn.

Regardless, the 2020 TPMS sensors are the same frequency (433mhz) as a 2018. I use the same aftermarket sensors on the winter setup on my 2020 that I used on my gen 5; same wheels/tires, in fact. The autel works fine on the 2020 for relearns and readings.

 

how are the prices on good aftermarket ones? Subaru ones are expensive.

 

Double post sorry

 

@CrossCheck - being new to TPMS options - I understand that cloning allows the winter set of wheels/tires to be swapped with the OEM with no additional work required but relearn requires that the ECU (?) be reprogrammed with the new sensor's IDs (is that basically correct)? The cloning requires a more expensive tool but program once and done whereas relearning requires doing that everytime you swap wheel sets (2 times per year).

How long does it take to relearn and what is the process?

Thanks all for the input.

 

I've been researching this topic, and all the threads associated to find an answer to my exact situation.

I purchased a set of 19" STI wheels for summer use, to retire the OE wheels with Blizzaks to winter duty. I wanted to TPMS cloned, so I wouldn't have to buy the tool, or program the car each season when switching from Summer/Winter wheel sets. Just install and roll. If this has been covered the way I've found to do so, I apologize, as I haven't come across it. Hopefully this helps others with similar questions, or some that are looking for an alternative solution.

I ordered the following set from TPMS.com, and confirmed with their tech support that they are pre-cloned and activated. They are misinformed that the location (driver front, driver rear, etc) matters, but it is needed to be entered in the comments when you order, for their sake.

TPMS.com pre-cloned sensors

I simply had the dealer give me the TPMS codes assigned to the car the last time it was in for service, entered them into the comments section of my order, they will arrive pre-cloned, ready to install without a tpms tool, or relearning to be done. I listed the sensor by location on the car, per their request (but as we know, is not necessary as the car automatically learns the location of each sensor after driving up to speed). I think this is a great deal at $110 shipped, for a hassle free swap over between seasonal sets of wheels/tires.

I will update once I get them in, and my wheels/tires are mounted and on the car, to confirm that it works as designed.

 

TPMS.com pre-cloned sensors

$439.84 for four TPMS sender valve stems?

When I bought my senders at Tire Rack in 2015 along with some cheap 17" closeout alloys, it was $176 and they were mounted on the wheels. The ATEQ TPMS QuickSet tool was another $120. After the first year, all I have to do is hook it up to the ODB II port, hit pushbutton start twice with my foot off the brake, and hit the snowflake or sun icon depending on the season to reprogram the car. That was the 2015-2017 315 mHz senders and I'm not aware that ATEQ ever upgraded their cheap USB dongle tool for 2018+ Outbacks but you should be able to buy senders and a tool for well less than $440.00.

Looking on Amazon, I see Schrader 33500 programmable senders for $24.95. I think an ATEQ V36 will program them and I see it online for $176.59 and several at $200-ish on Amazon. From issues with Windows device drivers for the TPMS QuickSet when I first got it, I can vouch for their excellent customer support. I imagine they can talk you through programming for an Outback if it isn't obvious from the manual. I'd call ATEQ and ask before buying anything. I imagine a good tire shop could also program them for you. The shop I use probably couldn't handle it.

In the Amazon Q&A for the Schrader senders, I see:

Will these work with a !) a 2018 subaru outback 3.6 touring and 2) with a 2018 subaru crosstrek? i own both.
Answer:
Yes; they both use the same protocol. They will need to be programmed (~10 seconds/sensor) to function like the OE sensors using a compatible tool, and then relearned to the vehicle (like the OE) to function with the vehicle.

 

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I paid $107 for an Autel TS408 TPMS tool
Its now $149 with a coupon (go to Amazon.. search TS408)

There's a newer models and models that do more... but you don't need them unless you own a garage.
I bought mine June 2017 and it has cloned sensors 5 sets of snow tires, and a set of summers I had to replace.

I have never paid more than $98 for a set of 4 sensors each time.. amazon or ebay.
I just paid $88.27 (Amazon Warehouse Deal) for a set of 4 rubber stemmed Autel MX sensors for my 2018 Outback (433MHZ) .. for the WRX rims and Blizzak snow tires I just installed. No problems

I strongly recommend this system.
I did 2) 2012 Mazda3s, 1)2017 Nissan Rogue, 1)2012 Nissan Titan, 1)2018 Outback
Once you have summer and winter tires that are cloned, you are not at the mercy of any garage or dealer until you need new tires. (Unless you cant change your own wheels...but even then, you'll still see a savings)

The way I see it.. its about $25 per tire to swap snow rubber to summer.. 2x a year or $200 per car.
I dunno what dealers charge now.. but the Toyota dealer wanted $80 to relearn to ecm on my Corolla each time, had i bought new non cloned sensors...that woulda been $160 a year if I didn't own black tape.

I've got about $600 total in the tool and sensors for snows for 5 cars... and have swapped tires at least 14x between all the cars.

I also saved the cost for the OEM Nissan sensors I had to replace ($80each) and the labor to install them (ECU program and physical install... $150?) when my OE ones failed (cloned the new ones from my snows hehehe)

The math:
If I could have gotten the tires swapped(or ecu relearned) for $80 each time X14 it would have cost a total of $1120.
I saved $520, plus the $450 or so for the replacements...and I own the tool
I see myself doing at least 4 tire swaps a year for at least 4 or 5 years with the 2 cars that still live here (kids grew up...one moved to where it doesn't snow, the other has a CX5 that doesn't use sensors)
Who knows what TPMS tech there will be then...

I do this more so I can put snows on(and off) at my pleasure.. in my garage.. by myself... without having to take time out of my life to sit in a waiting room, then be disappointed when they rip a tire(been there), destroy a sensor(possible), or scratch a wheel(been here too).

And... I use it as my "tire gauge" (I do occasionally check it against my "old skool" accugauge)

It's super easy to clone the sensors with the autel system and sensors...and the new sensors, are dual frequency.. so you don't even have to worry about that bit.
When I did my Outback, I pushed a few buttons, walked around the car once, pushed a button at each wheel, then push 2 more buttons for each of the 4 new sensors... doesn't get easier than that.

Oh.. and the TS408, has a tester for your FOB as well
Love it...

 

One of the first things I did after getting my Outback last November was to put a set of winter wheels and tires on it. I wanted to do the swap myself, so I ordered a complete tire/wheel package including TPMS from an online seller. The TPMS provided were OEM spec, non clonable sensors. As expected, after installing my winter tires, I got a TPMS dash warning, so I took my car to the dealer and they registered the new TPMS for me. I drove al winter with no problems. This spring, I put the factory tires and wheels back on. I was fully expecting to have to visit the dealer again to re-acquire the TPMS, but much to my surprise, the car locked on the sensors, and they have been working just fine for over a week now.

So it seems like my Outback didn't have to re-learn the sensors that had been previously installed. That's great news, I can swap my summer/winter tires without having to buy a programmer, or visit the dealer.

Just wanted to share my experience on this thread.

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Care to share where you’ve ordered those things from ?

 

Tire rack.com

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