Cardone makes a "heavy duty" version of the front half shafts (their part#6607509HD). The advertised difference is that the boots are made of "heavy duty thermoplastic". But there's another difference...the shafts are about 1.1" diameter, as opposed to stock, which are .9", measured with a caliper. I'm not sure if this adds enough mass to cause torque steer, but I'd suggest using them in pairs to be safe. Otherwise, nice looking part.
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Cardone heavy duty axles
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Cardone makes a "heavy duty" version of the front half shafts (their part#6607509HD). The advertised difference is that the boots are made of "heavy duty thermoplastic". But there's another difference...the shafts are about 1.1" diameter, as opposed to stock, which are .9", measured with a caliper. I'm not sure if this adds enough mass to cause torque steer, but I'd suggest using them in pairs to be safe. Otherwise, nice looking part.
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And I was wondering about a loss in acceleration. Maybe even a loss in fuel economy? If one did a lot of off road adventure, the heavier axles may be a good idea. But if an Outback is almost exclusively a road warrior, then it seems that extra axle weight would have a few disadvantages associated with it.
You would really only need the larger diameter axle if you are pumping out much greater than stock HP, or are doing a lot of off-road bashing.
The weak point will still be the CVs themselves, and the larger diameter axles will shock-load them more ( much stiffer in twist).
The weak point will still be the CVs themselves, and the larger diameter axles will shock-load them more ( much stiffer in twist).
Stay away from Cardone axles!
Inner joints can fail causing a vibration that you might not feel in the steering as you might expect for front axles. Also, the inner joints don't make the same noise you probably are familiar with if the outer CV joint fails. Both failed axles were NEW and made by Cardone. For those that ask if paying extra for boots of a heavier grade - don't bother because your Cardone axle will fail way before the boot fails.
I never had a problem with Cardone boots, but both Cardone axles failed on my 2006 Outback at around 40K and Cardone would NOT honor their "lifetime" warranty because the dealer I bought them from was no longer in business!
I would strongly advise all of you NOT to use Cardone products - especially their CV half-axles. First off, both failed early - 39k and 44k miles on the other. Contrary to their claim of standing behind their product, and their pledged lifetime warranty - THEY REFUSED because the parts store that I purchased the axles from was no longer in business. Why does that matter you ask? Good question!
I spoke with them by phone on at least 3 occasions but they would not budge. I had the original receipt and a note from my mechanic verifying the failure, but they did not care. Maybe they honor their warranty to the retailers - I have no way of knowing - but I do know that they did NOTHING to reimburse me for either of my failed axles. Other than being out the money for two axles I suppose I should be glad that they did not even offer to send a replacement because it appears that about 40k is the max you can expect before you do it all over again.
Inner joints can fail causing a vibration that you might not feel in the steering as you might expect for front axles. Also, the inner joints don't make the same noise you probably are familiar with if the outer CV joint fails. Both failed axles were NEW and made by Cardone. For those that ask if paying extra for boots of a heavier grade - don't bother because your Cardone axle will fail way before the boot fails.
I never had a problem with Cardone boots, but both Cardone axles failed on my 2006 Outback at around 40K and Cardone would NOT honor their "lifetime" warranty because the dealer I bought them from was no longer in business!
I would strongly advise all of you NOT to use Cardone products - especially their CV half-axles. First off, both failed early - 39k and 44k miles on the other. Contrary to their claim of standing behind their product, and their pledged lifetime warranty - THEY REFUSED because the parts store that I purchased the axles from was no longer in business. Why does that matter you ask? Good question!
I spoke with them by phone on at least 3 occasions but they would not budge. I had the original receipt and a note from my mechanic verifying the failure, but they did not care. Maybe they honor their warranty to the retailers - I have no way of knowing - but I do know that they did NOTHING to reimburse me for either of my failed axles. Other than being out the money for two axles I suppose I should be glad that they did not even offer to send a replacement because it appears that about 40k is the max you can expect before you do it all over again.
Based on how terrible my experience was with a cardone re-manufactured unit, I now avoid the entire company.
A: cardone has no edge on crappy axles. aftermarket axles are trash. use Subaru axles only to avoid issues. if you don't, dont' be surprised by failures.
B: There is no mileage they fail at. they can be expected to fail at lower mileages and higher mileages.
C: All organizations have systems and policies, by making any policy you are thereby codifying inefficiency - that's the nature of systems. But all organizations do it - every single one. And those systems always have situations that are unfair, don't work, miss the point....but overall do more good than harm. Sure, it would be nice for them to step over and above those inefficiencies, and I'd commend them if they do, but I don't fault Cardone for not doing that or having a policy that makes perfect sense in their sector.
B: There is no mileage they fail at. they can be expected to fail at lower mileages and higher mileages.
C: All organizations have systems and policies, by making any policy you are thereby codifying inefficiency - that's the nature of systems. But all organizations do it - every single one. And those systems always have situations that are unfair, don't work, miss the point....but overall do more good than harm. Sure, it would be nice for them to step over and above those inefficiencies, and I'd commend them if they do, but I don't fault Cardone for not doing that or having a policy that makes perfect sense in their sector.
Why would you need them. It isn't like all the power plant output is being delivered to only the front or back axles. It is spread out to four. The strain on the axles is cut in half. There are guys running superchargers with the stock axles with no failures. These are a waste of money. You wouldn't need grade 8 bolts to secure you wipers to the wiper motors either.
Same here, OEM CV axles only. Get the correct Subaru part number, then use it to search Google for the best OEM deals. I saved right at $100 by doing this last December. Purchased one from the online store at a dealership only 20 miles away. Ordered it online, they had it the next day, I drove there and picked it up. Perfect fit and no issues since. It was my right front CV axle.
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