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DIY PCV valve replacement for H6

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#1 ·
Replaced the PCV valve on my 2001 H6 yesterday, and took a few pics and notes to share with y'all. :sayinghi:

Time: 10-15 minutes (or longer if you clean the hose or clean & replace the old valve)

Tools: ratchet, 10mm socket, 9" extension, 19mm deep socket, screwdriver, long needle-nose pliers, short bungie cord

Why: Inspection and preventive maintenance.

Cost: New OEM valve cost me $12. Aftermarket is probably much cheaper. Or you can just clean & reuse the old valve, if you aren't in a hurry.

When: This job would be an absolute no-brainer when you replace the spark plugs. Also very easy if you are removing the battery.


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1) Locate PCV system

Remove engine cover (four 10mm bolts, pull back & up). PCV pipe is in the center cup of the intake manifold (dead center in the pic below). Follow it up around & down to the PCV valve on the side of the engine.

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2) Move window-washer reservoir

First remove two 10mm bolts:

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Then disconnect two electrical connectors:

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imho the connectors are the hardest part. Easier if you remove the battery first, but that would take longer, unless you need to remove the battery anyway.

My approach: Press white-connector tab with screwdriver while pulling that connector off with other hand. Pull reservoir up a bit and bungie-cord to hood hinge. Press green connector tab and lever connector apart with screwdriver. Pull reservoir up & out and shorten the bungie to hold it in place.


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3) Remove PCV valve

Squeeze & move the hose clamp with needlenose pliers. Pull the hose off by hand. Put a 19mm deep socket (hey, that's my lug nut socket!) on a 9" extension to remove the PCV valve, like this:

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PCV hose & hole with valve removed:

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4) Inspect & clean valve

Here are my old & new valves, and the part number:

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The new valve gives a short sharp rattle when I shake it. The old valve makes a very dull thunk-rattle...but the spring action is smooth when I press the plunger. Working just fine. :29:

It seems to me, these valves will never wear out, they just get dirty. I'm dropping the old one in a jar of solvent. I'll use it again next time...probably Spring 2014 when I do the plugs. :)


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5) Clean the PCV hose/pipe

If you have a gunky valve I think it would be a good idea to clean the hose too.

I didn't bother to clean mine, because a) I was feeling lazy, and b) the vacuum end of the valve was nice & clean, no sludge or varnish.

I did measure it though. The vacuum end of the valve below the barb is 0.395" OD. I think a length of 3/8" OD vinyl tubing would fit perfectly to ream out the PCV hose. Squirt some solvent down the tubing to clean any gunk. Bevel the end of the tubing if it gets stuck (esp. at the sharp bend over the intake manifold).


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6) Install new/clean PCV valve

No torque value in the 2001 service manual...for that matter almost no mention of this valve whatsoever :8:...so I just torqued it to feel. The new valve had longer threading on the body, so a few threads are still visible. Not a problem:

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That's it. Share & enjoy. :) And please reply with any suggestions or corrections. Thanks.

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-Jeff
 
#3 ·
It seems to me, these valves will never wear out, they just get dirty. I'm dropping the old one in a jar of solvent. I'll use it again next time...
Update: I will just toss the old valve.

Why: I recently changed a PCV valve on another car, and took the opportunity to suck on the new valve before installing, and suck on the old valve after cleaning. The old valve was wide open...fine..but it didn't CLOSE under vacuum. The "rattle test" doesn't tell you this. And if the valve doesn't close, you might as well just have an open hose from crankcase to manifold. :1pat:

If any one wants to do 'seafoam', that is good opportunity to seafoaming the intake. attach length of 3/8" OD clear vinyl tubing would fit perfectly to ream out the PCV hose, then vacuum suck the seafoam to the intake slowly.
Yep. Seafoam seems like an appropriate solvent for a gunked-up PCV hose.

Inspect the hose first, though. You don't want to Seafoam your engine if you don't have to. It can do more harm than good if you don't need it.

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-Jeff
 
#5 ·
My advice:

Don't replace an AC line unless you really need to because of a fast leak.

Use refrigerant dye, a blacklight, and yellow glasses to find the leak. How old is your car?

If you have a slow leak that took 5-10 years to lose refrigerant pressure, it might make more sense to just recharge it and leave it alone for another 5-10 years.

If it ain't broke...

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-Jeff
 
#11 ·
Today I tried to do this. After got the tank out of the way, removed the clip, I cannot disconnect the tube from the valve. There was no room to lift the tube. Any tricks?
try to twist the tube to break it free after the clamp is off. You could try to use some pliers too I guess, be gentle. If the hose does get destroyed - it likely was close to needing replacement anyway....
 
#12 ·
When I did this my old one had some type of thread sealant on there. Looked like plumbers pipe dope. I put some 'high tack' gasket sealant since that's all I have available. What do others do? Seems like teflon would work for water, but maybe not with oil?
 
#20 ·
My local dealer/parts counter guy told me for years that they never change them, and don't even stock them. Finally ordered one from a mail order Subaru part dealer. My mechanic also said that he had never changed one, but he humored me (me mostly trying to pay attention to what cardoc preaches) and changed it for me any way. The old one was still perfectly fine at 275K miles......(I got it back). No detectable effect by changing to a new one.

Oh well. Live and learn.............
 
#23 ·
Stuck Shut-Plugged PCV = Other Engine Problems!



Hi - elsewhere, I have added on few other threads about doing some fun work on my 02 H6 LL Bean (rebuild suspension, timing chain guides, plugs, VCGs, etc.) -> during all of that I found my PCV was shot and likely the cause of VCGs leaking oil + tons of blow by throughout the throttle body area.

It is such a cheap and minor maintenance to replace; but if skipped can lead to other serious issues a mechanic would love to fix without even addressing the root cause. In fact, my brake power booster works better and more smoothly since that old dorked PCV was likely killing the vacuum at idle (explained fairly well in linked article below)...

Here is a good overview of what and how PCV works + list of all the issues that may arise if this little valve is not replaced on regular basis:

AGCO Automotive Repair Service - Baton Rouge, LA - Detailed Auto Topics - What are the Symptoms of a Bad PCV Valve

Hope this helps explain why the PCV shouldn't be ignored. BTW - I am about 2k down the road from the engine work and my engine hasn't been so dry (no oil leaks) since I bought the car at 110k....I love clean engines with no oil leaks....now for that tranny sump pan leak....LOL :rolleyes:
 
#26 ·
I was replacing my LH VCG and broke the PCV hose (and another hose) in the process. Mine was very brittle.
Can anyone help me with finding a replacement hose? I suppose I will replace the valve as well - that was easy to find.
I realize this is probably too late for you but thought I would share it if it can help someone else.

I ran into the same thing. The hose that connects to the PCV Valve was dry and extremely brittle. The part number the dealer gave me for the PCV hose assembly is 11815AB083, for some reason finding this on without the part number on most of the online parts sites appears to be impossible (at least for me). At the dealer I went to it is a special order non stocked part so for people changing the PCV or valve cover gaskets it might be worth checking the hose condition before ordering parts. I was able to get a piece of hose with the same ID from a chain autoparts place for the time being which seems to be working fine but I am still debating replacing the whole hose.

This is on a 2004 LL Bean with the PCV on the driver's side valve cover.

The other hose may be 11815AB062 but I'm not 100% sure on that one (goes from the airbox to a connection in front of the PCV Valve on the valve cover).
 
#29 ·
To make my life easy I ran Mal out of washer fluid and pulled the washer fluid tank and battery. Made it quite easy to reach. Never mind I then had to soak the bugger in PB Blaster and smack my wrench with a hammer to get a factory valve to let go from the engine after 112,000 miles and 16 years...

ahem.

Seemed to fix my jumpy cold idle though and between replacing this and my oil cooler gasket I hope I've solved my disappearing oil concerns.